Air Canada charging $25 first checked bag to Cuba | Debbie's Caribbean Resort Reviews Forums

I travel with NO carry on….and that includes South, cruises as well as across Canada. It can be done.

My point was, if they are going to charge, do it for carry-on, not checked. Even if some people reduced the amount of crap they crammed in their carryons it would help…

Lots of things "can be done". Whether it is a good idea or not is another question.

For someone who wants to avoid waiting for checked baggage to find its way to the carousel (or not!), a carry on is the obvious answer. Do you pack valuables in your checked luggage, stuff them in your pockets, or just not take any??? Do you have a back up plan in case the air carrier loses your luggage? (Cayo Largo would qualify as a "back up plan"! )

My point is that if they charged for carry-on, not checked in, it would make things alot smoother and less hassle on the plane.If walking to the luggae carousel and waiting a couple minutes is too much for you, then bring a carry on and pay for it. You waiting for ur luggage at a carousel is not tying me up nor an inconvience to me. But you cramming your stuff in the overhead above my seat is, or your crotch/stomach in my face when I am sitting in an aisle seat and you need to get stuff during the flight from your bag, or getting to the check in desk and finding out the carry on is over weight and then having to re-pack some of it in your checked luggage to avoid being overweight or paying extra fees while the rest of us stand in the line waiting to get checked in. Or the line up onto the plane while I and other are trying to get to our seats while everyone fights for space in the overhead bins, or when the flight attendant’s annouce its a full flight and ask for some people to check in their carry on luggage in to make room etc. All these things slow down the process and are an inconveience. That is factual.

My point is that if there was less carry on, it would make things easier and quicker and smoother for all. That is not an opinion, it is fact whether you like or agree with it or not. Arguing about what you bring, and "if" your luggage may or may not show up etc is all secondary.

My point is that if there was less carry on, it would make things easier and quicker and smoother for all. That is not an opinion, it is fact whether you like or agree with it or not. Arguing about what you bring, and "if" your luggage may or may not show up etc is all secondary. Not so "secondary" to someone who loses their bag, but turn that argument on its head for a minute. Turn around time for flights would be a lot quicker if they didn’t need to load and unload checked luggage. So by checking your bag you are slowing down the departure of the flight, and probably by a far larger margin than those pesky carry on folks!

Seriously, you are not talking to me about overhead bins. I never use them (unless I am forced to because I am assigned a seat where there is no option to put my bag under the seat ahead). People messing around with the overhead compartments annoy me too, but the reality of the situation is that they are usually done and everyone is sitting down for several minutes before the aircraft actually departs. If you don’t like standing in the aisle while people organize their stuff, don’t bother boarding until the lineup is gone. As far as people taking things out of their carry ons in flight, sure, it’s annoying. So are those washroom lines. But you could skip the whole thing and just stay home.

Actually, you should have to pay for a spot in the overhead bin but what you can store under the seat is free. I like that idea!!

LOL I think you just gave the airlines an idea for a new source of revenue but I think they will probably charge everyone for both. Perhaps they will not charge the same rate for the under seat space?

My point is that if there was less carry on, it would make things easier and quicker and smoother for all. That is not an opinion, it is fact whether you like or agree with it or not. Arguing about what you bring, and "if" your luggage may or may not show up etc is all secondary. Not so "secondary" to someone who loses their bag, but turn that argument on its head for a minute. Turn around time for flights would be a lot quicker if they didn’t need to load and unload checked luggage. So by checking your bag you are slowing down the departure of the flight, and probably by a far larger margin than those pesky carry on folks!

Seriously, you are not talking to me about overhead bins. I never use them (unless I am forced to because I am assigned a seat where there is no option to put my bag under the seat ahead). People messing around with the overhead compartments annoy me too, but the reality of the situation is that they are usually done and everyone is sitting down for several minutes before the aircraft actually departs. If you don’t like standing in the aisle while people organize their stuff, don’t bother boarding until the lineup is gone. As far as people taking things out of their carry ons in flight, sure, it’s annoying. So are those washroom lines. But you could skip the whole thing and just stay home.

No carry on’s still equals quicker and easier and smoother…..all the other arguments and what if’s aside…that is my point. I am not talking to anyone in particular. What’s easy and convenient for bathroom lines and waiting for luggage are all side arugements. Yes you wait for bathroom lines and yes you wait for your luggage after you get off the flight if you have checked in luggage. But NONE of that affects my fact…NO carry on’s would make for quicker and easier and smoother boarding and disembarkation.

I agree with you monctonguy. The size of some of the carry-ons are ridiculous. And very rarely do you see people needing them during their flight. Don’t get me wrong, I envy people who can pack for a whole week and be able to fit it all in a carry-on, but my preference is checked luggage. I like to bring home Cuban rum without having to haul it onto the plane. Also, whether or not I have checked luggage is a moot point because I’ll have to wait for the checked-baggage passengers to get on the bus anyway.

Also, whether or not I have checked luggage is a moot point because I’ll have to wait for the checked-baggage passengers to get on the bus anyway. Not coming home you won’t.Hey, if everyone flew naked we would get through the security line a lot faster, but it wouldn’t be very practical. Seriously, do you folks who want to do away with carry on luggage not take any valuables or medication with you? If so, do you pack it in your checked luggage, or shove it in your pockets? Nobody has answered that question yet. I am not advocating for bigger bags as carry on. If people stuck to the size and weight the air carriers specify, and if the flight attendants properly policed the boarding process, there would be no inconvenience in regard to carry on luggage. And before you say they can’t do that, I will mention that when I flew Cubana a flight attendant ordered a passenger who was fussing with his luggage to sit down so that he did not impede others boarding. Make it a rule, enforce it, and the problem ends. It would also speed things up if overhead bins were given seat assignments. Use your allotted space, nobody else’s.
Hi eeeefarm, please provide a definition of valuables. I guess I’m lucky I don’t have to take medication and the OTC meds I do bring are packed in my checked luggage. The only carry-on I have is the small backpack I bring to the beach which holds my wallet, passport, hotel voucher, iPod, and Kindle and it fits very nicely under the seat. I never use the overhead.

You stated ”If people stuck to the size and weight the air carriers specify, and if the flight attendants properly policed the boarding process, there would be no inconvenience in regard to carry on luggage.” You hit the nail on the head with that one and that’s why the people on this board can’t stand carry-on luggage because people don’t follow the rules and the airlines don’t enforce them.

Hi eeeefarm, please provide a definition of valuables. Medication for those who need it. Cameras, cell phones, any other electronics and chargers for same, sunglasses, obviously money/credit cards/passport and other I.D., jewelry if you bring it, anything else you wouldn’t care to lose. Enough essentials to start your vacation, e.g. sunscreen, bug dope, toothpaste. (yes,limited to 100 ml containers). I would include at the very least a change of clothing in case your checked baggage goes missing. I also put my carry on under the seat in front of me.

I don’t think there are many here who would care to travel with no carry on luggage at all. (one obvious exception!) The problem of people overstuffing their carry on luggage will predictably increase with the new charges on checked luggage. I also expect more people will resort to layering clothing and/or wearing multi pocketed garments. IMO the airlines should simply have let well enough alone and raised their prices if they need to do that, but nickel & diming people is the new normal. Wonder when they will bring back pay toilets? (remember them?)

Ok so Air Canada is going to charge $25 for your first checked piece of luggage. BIG DEAL! Get over it or don’t book with Air Canada.Please don’t use the overhead bins because it may upset your fellow traveller? What should we use the overhead bins for? Perhaps for screaming children? Maybe we can use the bins as penalty boxes for people who use the lavatories more than once per 3.5 hour flights?

I don’t see why carry on luggage will become a problem with the new $25 dollar fees. The rules have always been pretty clear about the size and weight of carry on luggage entitlement if you bother to read the fine print on your travel documents. They have also been pretty clear about what can and can’t be stored in the overhead "carry on storage compartments". Unfortunately the rules vary between different carriers but most people never read the rules or simply ignore them. Most airlines have become more aggressive in enforcing their rules. Probably because too many people have been trying to stretch and bend them. I am constantly amused at people who get flustered because their baggage is overweight/oversized or their carry on is too big and is required to be checked in. I guess now they will be penalized with the $25 dollar fee if they didn’t have checked luggage to begin with……hmmmmmmmm? I really like it LMAO.

If you have a special circumstance where you feel you might have to be over your limit or you are unsure about their baggage policy call the airline or ask your travel agent in advance BEFORE you book. I once had concerns about oversized hockey equipment going on multi legged flights to Europe. I got special permission from the airlines and they sent it to me in writing. They are not always the mean and nasty people we make them out to be.

Just my 2 cents. I sense another marriage in Cuba thread starting soon. LMAO

The article brings up an interesting point. I wonder how many people have actually measured their carry on to make sure it is within spec. With the increasing tendency to sell carry on luggage complete with wheels, I expect many are not going to fit in the measuring cart. To me, adding wheels defeats the whole purpose of a carry on, which should be to minimize weight and be "crushable", so it will fit wherever it needs to fit. Duffles and backpacks generally work well, and you don’t use up half of your weight allowance on the bag!

What is missing, often, is a bit of common sense. I’ve never had any issues with my luggage being overweight, either carry on or checked, because I weigh it before I leave home. When I select a bag to use as a carry on, I check the dimensions to be sure it is within limits. Simple.

Not as simple as what CuGeroege suggets…if you don’t like the $25 fee, dont book with Air Canada. Well seeing as Air Canada AND Westjet both do it and they are they only 2 national carries in Canada, you really dont have an option now do you.But, the $25 fee isn’t what most people here are complaining about…its the indirect result of the $25 fee that will cause MORE people to pack carry-ons and over pack them.I am guessing that over 50% of people would not be able to bring their carry-on’s on the planes if they actually had to make them fit into the metal luggage measurement tool next to the check in desks. If so, they there would be lots of room and a much quicker process getting off and on the plane.Another thing is maybe the airlines should cut back to just 1 carry on item, instead of 2. Or charge for the 2nd one! Or maybe if you don’t bring any carry-on, not charge for your first checked luggage piece.But its a money thing, dont worry…fees for carry on luggage wont be far behind!!
I can’t imagine going over the weight limit especially when going on a beach vacation. As for the article above, I guess a good rule of thumb would be to bring the size restrictions with you when shopping for a new carry-on.

I agree with you monctonguy about the airlines restricting 1 carry-on/person, but I also agree with CuGeorge about passengers actually being informed about size restrictions for their baggage before they fly. Most people don’t check this out, but they’re the first ones to complain about it at check-in when they’re over. I always weigh my bags when I’m done packing to make sure I’m well under the limit as I like to bring back 2 bottles of rum for hubby. As for essentials like medication, a simple doctor’s note to the airline should be sufficient, but even with all the items listed as ”valuables” the lesson to be learned is be reasonable. Valuable and essential are 2 different things.

I think it would have been better for Air Canada to limit passengers to one carry on per person, which includes purse and laptops, just as most UK airlines do. However they wouldn’t get the increased revenue of charging $25 for the first bag that way.

Ken, that makes sense, particularly if they all (including purse and laptop)have to fit in the one carry-on bag. They can then removed after geting through security. Don’t know how that would work for Terry who only travels with two carry on items, but then maybe his two items together match the carry-on regulations.

quote]You can take more than one 100ml container in your carry-on… ;-)Cheers,Terry[/quote]

Good point! I will try that next time! Thanks for reminding me of the obvious, Terry! I really never thought of it – and I am a very seasoned traveller! How embarrassing for me…

This weekend I saw advertising by CanJet now and it said "Shouldn’t your all inclusive package include all inclusive flight too?" So looks like some companies might use it to gain more customers. Hmm, i wonder where they are going with that exactly?! And does Canjet npow do their own vacation packages? I thought they were just the charter planes used by other vacation companies for the past few years?!

But wouldn’t it be nice to have an option of when you book for your flight to be all inclusive of extra fees for baggage, food, seat selection, drinks etc…..would be interesting to see how far they go with this and what excatly will all be included.

And does Canjet npow do their own vacation packages? I thought they were just the charter planes used by other vacation companies for the past few years?!

But wouldn’t it be nice to have an option of when you book for your flight to be all inclusive of extra fees for baggage, food, seat selection, drinks etc…..would be interesting to see how far they go with this and what excatly will all be included.

CanJet vacations now offers a very limited number of package vacations, with departures only from Toronto. This is their first year, so expect some hiccups and/or major oops!

www.canjetvacations.com/en/home/default.aspx

Not as simple as what CuGeroege suggets…if you don’t like the $25 fee, dont book with Air Canada. Well seeing as Air Canada AND Westjet both do it and they are they only 2 national carries in Canada, you really dont have an option now do you.

Just to clarify, Westjet does not charge for first checked bag to the Caribbean, just on domestic flights for now. Also just to add, Westjet does not weigh their carry on luggage, they limit only by size. Although the Westjet Rep I was speaking to last night said I should leave my rock collection at home and try to limit myself to 25ish pounds or so

Not as simple as what CuGeroege suggets…if you don’t like the $25 fee, dont book with Air Canada. Well seeing as Air Canada AND Westjet both do it and they are they only 2 national carries in Canada, you really dont have an option now do you.
Just to clarify, Westjet does not charge for first checked bag to the Caribbean, just on domestic flights for now. Also just to add, Westjet does not weigh their carry on luggage, they limit only by size. Although the Westjet Rep I was speaking to last night said I should leave my rock collection at home and try to limit myself to 25ish pounds or so Yes I knew that..Air Canada Vacations still allows the first 2 bags free to Cuba as well , but have been charging to the US for ahwile now. I was referring to flying within Canada.

Sunwing is the only airline I has seen consistently weigh carry ons, because of the low limits of 5kgs!

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